{"id":4377,"date":"2026-03-04T12:24:04","date_gmt":"2026-03-04T11:24:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.planetfanatics.hu\/?p=4377"},"modified":"2026-03-04T12:24:04","modified_gmt":"2026-03-04T11:24:04","slug":"sustainability-honestly-with-eva-somorjai-episode-4","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.planetfanatics.hu\/en\/news\/sustainability-honestly-with-eva-somorjai-episode-4\/","title":{"rendered":"Sustainability, Honestly with \u00c9va Somorjai (Episode 4)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p data-start=\"32\" data-end=\"240\">The guest of the fourth episode of the <em data-start=\"71\" data-end=\"102\">Honestly About Sustainability<\/em> podcast was \u00c9va Somorjai, former Deputy HR Director at Magyar Telekom and Deutsche Telekom, HR consultant, and founder of Patr\u00f3nus H\u00e1z.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"242\" data-end=\"328\">The podcast episode can be watched on our <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@planetfanaticsnetwork\">YouTube channel<\/a> or listened to on <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4rDnvGChWMw5lKQMvt5Xqy\">Spotify.<\/a><\/p>\n<p data-start=\"330\" data-end=\"875\">In this episode, we explored the workplace of the future in the context of an aging society, Generation Z, and other individual needs and trends. \u00c9va Somorjai and Katalin Szomol\u00e1nyi discussed why simply offering tax incentives is not enough to bring older employees back to the labor market instead of providing social recognition, how HR can respond to the unique needs of neurodivergent employees, and why flexible small and medium-sized enterprises may be the true winners of generational expectations compared to slower large corporations.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"877\" data-end=\"1083\">An episode about corporate flexibility that bridges generational divides, overcoming trends that pigeonhole individuals, and the increasing value of leaders who know how to ask questions and truly listen.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"32\" data-end=\"238\"><strong data-start=\"32\" data-end=\"40\">SZK:<\/strong><br data-start=\"40\" data-end=\"43\" \/>In the future, Europe will face an aging society. What challenges does this pose in workplaces for intergenerational collaboration, and what could be the solution for retaining older employees?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"240\" data-end=\"971\"><strong data-start=\"240\" data-end=\"247\">\u00c9S:<\/strong><br data-start=\"247\" data-end=\"250\" \/>There is a huge gap in expectations. Looking at Generation Z, many have learned during COVID how great it is to work from home\u2014they don\u2019t want to commute, and they are much more drawn to an entrepreneurial mindset rather than the constraints of large corporations. In contrast, the older generation hasn\u2019t changed at all in this regard: commuting, social interaction, and daily face-to-face contact with their manager remain important to them. Bringing older employees back into the workforce cannot be achieved through tax breaks or financial incentives alone. What is needed is a shift in societal values, like we see in Japan or South Korea, where the experience and knowledge that comes with age is truly respected.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"973\" data-end=\"1125\"><strong data-start=\"973\" data-end=\"981\">SZK:<\/strong><br data-start=\"981\" data-end=\"984\" \/>From an HR perspective, what concrete tools could help promote this collaboration and the appreciation of older employees within companies?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1127\" data-end=\"1575\"><strong data-start=\"1127\" data-end=\"1134\">\u00c9S:<\/strong><br data-start=\"1134\" data-end=\"1137\" \/>There is a beautiful concept called \u201creverse mentoring.\u201d The idea is to pair an older and a younger colleague. The older employee supports the younger one\u2019s faster development with their experience and expertise, while the younger employee helps the older one adapt to new technologies. While this sounds fantastic on paper, in practice it hasn\u2019t achieved breakthrough success yet\u2014likely because leadership hasn\u2019t fully committed to it.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1577\" data-end=\"1767\"><strong data-start=\"1577\" data-end=\"1585\">SZK:<\/strong><br data-start=\"1585\" data-end=\"1588\" \/>We hear more and more about neurodivergent employees (e.g., people with autism or ADHD), while labor shortages are also widespread. Has HR begun addressing their specific needs?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1769\" data-end=\"2284\"><strong data-start=\"1769\" data-end=\"1776\">\u00c9S:<\/strong><br data-start=\"1776\" data-end=\"1779\" \/>Honestly, almost not at all. I haven\u2019t come across a comprehensive corporate strategy for this. Currently, mostly isolated, popular initiatives exist, like mindfulness, digital detox, or reduced screen time, but there\u2019s no coherent system that truly supports them. Of course, it would be too much to expect a company to fully accommodate every individual\u2019s unique needs, but flexible policies should be created that allow individuals to integrate more easily and increase tolerance within the community.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"1769\" data-end=\"2284\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/www.fenntarthatofejloves.net\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/2023_origo.webp\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u00c9VA SOMORJAI<\/p>\n<p>\u00c9va Somorjai began her career at the International Directorate of Magyar Hitelbank, then spent three years living in Melbourne, where she served as Administrative and Finance Manager at a real estate investment company. From 1996, she continued her professional career within Pepsi\u2019s Hungarian organization, initially working in finance before being appointed HR Director of the Hungarian company in 2000.<\/p>\n<p>She joined Magyar Telekom in 2001, where she worked for more than fifteen years. From 2007, she served as Chief HR Officer (Deputy CEO for Human Resources). In 2017, she was appointed Chief HR Officer at Deutsche Telekom\u2019s European headquarters, where she was responsible for the full HR operations across 11 countries. At the same time, she founded Patr\u00f3nus H\u00e1z, a residential home providing accommodation for 12 autistic residents.<\/p>\n<p>She left Telekom at the end of 2022 and currently works as a consultant.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"32\" data-end=\"235\"><strong data-start=\"32\" data-end=\"40\">SZK:<\/strong><br data-start=\"40\" data-end=\"43\" \/>You\u2019ve mentioned flexibility several times. How well are current large corporations able to meet the increasingly individual expectations of employees, or specifically those of Generation Z?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"237\" data-end=\"809\"><strong data-start=\"237\" data-end=\"244\">\u00c9S:<\/strong><br data-start=\"244\" data-end=\"247\" \/>Unfortunately, large corporations are very slow to become more flexible. There\u2019s also a strong generational gap here: top management often belongs to Generation X or the baby boomers, and they struggle to find common ground with the expectations of younger employees. That\u2019s why I foresee that small and medium-sized enterprises (SMEs) will gain more importance in the future. These companies can operate on a more human scale and offer more flexible conditions, which can be more attractive to those who don\u2019t want to create within rigid corporate frameworks.<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"811\" data-end=\"930\"><strong data-start=\"811\" data-end=\"819\">SZK:<\/strong><br data-start=\"819\" data-end=\"822\" \/>Looking ahead to, say, 2030, what skills will future executives need in this rapidly changing environment?<\/p>\n<p data-start=\"932\" data-end=\"1473\"><strong data-start=\"932\" data-end=\"939\">\u00c9S:<\/strong><br data-start=\"939\" data-end=\"942\" \/>I hope that leadership itself will be valued more. A leader doesn\u2019t need to be the top expert in every area, as long as they surround themselves with excellent specialists. Far more important are foresight and a strong curiosity about the world. And perhaps most crucially: they must be able to listen more than they speak. It\u2019s no coincidence that we have two ears and only one mouth. Leaders need to pay attention to others, prioritize tasks effectively, and be flexible enough to adapt yesterday\u2019s goals to tomorrow\u2019s changes.<\/p>\n<div class=\"flex flex-col text-sm pb-25\">\n<article class=\"text-token-text-primary w-full focus:outline-none [--shadow-height:45px] has-data-writing-block:pointer-events-none has-data-writing-block:-mt-(--shadow-height) has-data-writing-block:pt-(--shadow-height) [&amp;:has([data-writing-block])&gt;*]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]\" dir=\"auto\" tabindex=\"-1\" data-turn-id=\"request-WEB:867d2b06-051d-41e1-815e-6f809bced21c-4\" data-testid=\"conversation-turn-10\" data-scroll-anchor=\"true\" data-turn=\"assistant\">\n<div class=\"text-base my-auto mx-auto pb-10 [--thread-content-margin:--spacing(4)] @w-sm\/main:[--thread-content-margin:--spacing(6)] @w-lg\/main:[--thread-content-margin:--spacing(16)] px-(--thread-content-margin)\">\n<div class=\"[--thread-content-max-width:40rem] @w-lg\/main:[--thread-content-max-width:48rem] mx-auto max-w-(--thread-content-max-width) flex-1 group\/turn-messages focus-visible:outline-hidden relative flex w-full min-w-0 flex-col agent-turn\" tabindex=\"-1\">\n<div class=\"flex max-w-full flex-col grow\">\n<div class=\"min-h-8 text-message relative flex w-full flex-col items-end gap-2 text-start break-words whitespace-normal [.text-message+&amp;]:mt-1\" dir=\"auto\" data-message-author-role=\"assistant\" data-message-id=\"d27e9ca7-df17-4e56-b652-2de09fa55379\" data-message-model-slug=\"gpt-5-mini\">\n<div class=\"flex w-full flex-col gap-1 empty:hidden first:pt-[1px]\">\n<div class=\"markdown prose dark:prose-invert w-full wrap-break-word light markdown-new-styling\">\n<p data-start=\"0\" data-end=\"87\" data-is-last-node=\"\" data-is-only-node=\"\">The full conversation can be watched on our YouTube channel and listened to on Spotify.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"&quot;Nem kell a legjobb szakinak lenni.&quot; | Fenntarthat\u00f3s\u00e1gr\u00f3l \u0151szint\u00e9n Somorjai \u00c9v\u00e1val\" width=\"1080\" height=\"608\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/9KTSBqIcT2Y?feature=oembed\"  allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>In two weeks, Zsolt Jamniczky, Deputy CEO of the E.ON Hung\u00e1ria Group, will be our podcast guest, and we will discuss energy trends with him.<\/p>\n<p>The Planet Fanatics\u2019 Network Podcast<br \/>\nWelcome to our new series!<br \/>\n\u200bSustainability, Honestly is the biweekly podcast of the Planet Fanatics\u2019 Network. Our host, Katalin Szomol\u00e1nyi, sits down with renowned experts and decision\u2011makers to uncover the most pressing questions of our time.<\/p>\n<p>What is the show about?<br \/>\nWe don\u2019t settle for surface\u2011level answers.<br \/>\nWe look into what really drives markets and our planet\u2014from global trends to shifting value systems and the technologies shaping our future.<br \/>\nOur aim is to provide an authentic picture of sustainability from both a business and a human perspective.<\/p>\n<p>Where can you follow us?<br \/>\nDon\u2019t miss the next episode!<br \/>\nSubscribe to our YouTube channel, follow us on Facebook and Spotify, and visit the Sustainable Headshot blog for background insights.<\/p>\n<p>Join us on the journey toward the future!<\/p>\n<p>If you missed it, you can access our previous episodes here:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetfanatics.hu\/en\/news\/sustainability-honestly-with-peter-kulloi-episode-1\/\">Sustainability, Honestly with P\u00e9ter K\u00fcll\u0151i (Episode 1)<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetfanatics.hu\/en\/news\/sustainability-honestly-with-peter-kulloi-episode-2\/\">Sustainability, Honestly with P\u00e9ter K\u00fcll\u0151i (Episode 2)<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.planetfanatics.hu\/en\/news\/sustainability-honestly-with-eva-somorjai-episode-3\/\">Sustainability, Honestly with \u00c9va Somorjai (Episode 3)<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"mt-3 w-full empty:hidden\">\n<div class=\"text-center\"><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<\/article>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"pointer-events-none h-px w-px absolute bottom-0\" aria-hidden=\"true\" data-edge=\"true\"><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>How can the gap be bridged between Generation Z, which demands remote work and flexibility, and the older generation that clings to the office? 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